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. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party. helping ending the motion of the a robust welfare state and really modernizing the democratic party and making it more business friendly. >> is there someone who this yale historian decided was the worst president? >> he did not ran rank the worst president of the last 100 years. >> but president obama made that cut, being the most recent. not only even that. i think he was a path breaking president, you look at health care reform. it it it's. >> okay, thank you so much. >> what it takes to prepare to moderate a presidential debate. former abc news news anchor joins us in the next hour with her experience. and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. there's natural gas under m
. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party. helping ending the motion of the a robust welfare state and really modernizing the democratic party and making it more business friendly. >> is there someone who this yale historian decided was the worst president? >> he did not ran rank the worst president of the last 100 years. >> but president...
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>>> joining me today, msnbc contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's
>>> joining me today, msnbc contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate...
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he was tied with clinton in october although he one. one pollster questions the assumption made from today's polls. >> they assume you have the same high level of african-american, latino, yo ung people from 2008. >> david axelrod said polls are widely different in the methodologies so to think they are all wrong. but this is a close race. as we have always predicted. >> the race is not over. it can go back and forth 34 times. met romney half's to create the moment of. >> in the past races were the lead was cut or flipped it is roughly 5% and some cases it was the debate that moved the nidal. lou: our congressional correspondent. thank you mike. 1992 in depended candidate ross perot entered the first of october and ended up 19% of the vote. and special prosecutor decided to influence the outcome to take caspar weinberger with the iran contra affair to lead the way for william jefferson clinton. >> this is called art and to be funded it. we will talk about art to and religion and money and politics. two weeks of cover-up of the murder of
he was tied with clinton in october although he one. one pollster questions the assumption made from today's polls. >> they assume you have the same high level of african-american, latino, yo ung people from 2008. >> david axelrod said polls are widely different in the methodologies so to think they are all wrong. but this is a close race. as we have always predicted. >> the race is not over. it can go back and forth 34 times. met romney half's to create the moment of....
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bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a challenger making his television debate debut against the sitting president of the united states. and after doing this four times as a nation, the record for incumbent presidents facing these challengers is 0-4. okay. so now 1996, incumbent president is that now not as young man from arkansas, bill clinton, and his challenger that year is bob dole. did bob dole really beat incumbent bill clinton in their first debate? actually, no.
bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not...
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first heed you is say about the kay men islands bill and hillary clinton claim $200,000 of foreign tax credits in 2006. that's more than i did. >> bill: he has got it say to the people these criticisms will -- okay for the secretary of state by isn't it okay for me. >> bill: you said something very interesting. you said that he has pulse ahead in the swing tates last time you said he wasn't. >> i said just the opposite. falling behind. -- that is true i think the polls are rest. i just went through it if you take ohio, florida and virginia, you combine them, the exit polls from the last four elections have a 1 point democratic skew. the polling that has been done in the month of september in those three states has an 8 point democratic skew. >> bill: i know that. >> a 7 point -- >> bill: are you holding to what you said here last week whereas you don't believe these polls, you think that they are consciously -- remember what you said was done deliberately to put the president ahead in a psychological way. are you still holding to that? >> i do. >> bill: if the election were held tomorr
first heed you is say about the kay men islands bill and hillary clinton claim $200,000 of foreign tax credits in 2006. that's more than i did. >> bill: he has got it say to the people these criticisms will -- okay for the secretary of state by isn't it okay for me. >> bill: you said something very interesting. you said that he has pulse ahead in the swing tates last time you said he wasn't. >> i said just the opposite. falling behind. -- that is true i think the polls are...
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on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come ben see, though. >> he's the president. >> john, have you forgotten all the problems romney has had for the last few weeks? >> i think part of obama's problem was his coaching and i also think he was leaning too much on his income ben sea instead of getting out there assuming he was on the same level as romney. >> just an advisory board, yes. >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare, and the president supports taking $716 billion out of that program. i want to take that $716 billion you have cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we n
on the clinton question, the clinton question, romney showed, like bill clinton energized the democratic con of earnings romney has energized his base that was about to abandon him, and he's shown that he's a contender. but the more the fact checkers, the more the debate goes on, the more people find -- >> you mean -- >> why wasn't obama the fact checker? >> do you mean obama is the incumbent? >> i thought i made that clear the first time around. it's not just tin come...
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romney was in new york, speaking at the clinton global initial gen. he argued that foreign aid it needs to have more strings attached to. what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely wrong. we wasted a great deal of the past 11 years in two wars we never should of had. the iraq war on phony pretenses. the afghanistan war, another war we should never have had. we spent trillions of dollars, a waste of money and a waste of blood. it seems what romney is saying we do not have enough military. again, to my mind, it gets it exactly wrong. i think president obama has been judicious in the past year in this arab spring, which is a tremendous amount of tumult in the middle east. we do not control events cared for romney to pretend that we do it and preten
romney was in new york, speaking at the clinton global initial gen. he argued that foreign aid it needs to have more strings attached to. what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely...
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and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show like this. we're not having a huge impact. i mean, you are, i guess. >> you have a huge impact. >> i have a huge impact with young girls, young women. that's my demographic. >> and young men. >> older men especially. oerl men like me. you can vouch for that. >> oh, you enjoyed that one, didn't you? >> yes, i did! >> kelsey grammer was on the show the other day and he bailed -- >> oh, my gosh, i'm dying to know what happened. >> i'll tell you what happened. he was out there and i was given a set of questions and i researched it he was quite happy to talk about his ex-wife camille. then he was in
and like we were saying backstage, if it wasn't for the 22nd amendment is it that bill clinton would be president again because he obviously knows what he's talking about and people feel confident with him. but i do believe in barack obama. i do believe his message. i haven't lost faith in him. and i think that, you know -- it's not an easy thing to do. nobody knows what the hell they're getting into when they're running for president. you don't know what job you're getting into hosting a show...
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clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the
clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access...
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the day before shows clinton 10 points behind. the next day she beat obama in the new hampshire primary. >> the kind of come back new hampshire has just given me. >> she tears up that moves 11 points in one day. >> she showed some authenticity. i think voters very much were attracted to that. >> authenticity is rare in politics and in presidential campaigns the consultants strive to control everything. >> this is all theater. >> democrat bob beckel has counselled hundreds of candidates. >> it is theater of politics trying to get into the theater and take a look see if they like your play. >> the romney campaign preparing to play. they get lots of people to watch. >> it take this and tighten it out a little bit. >> it involves 400 people advanced people, setting up a stage. >> a presidential campaign stop involves a lot of hard work. >> most are paid to do this. some are volunteers. the planning starts days early. >> we send people driving around small towns in america and asking people hey, can we use your campus screen? >> bill r
the day before shows clinton 10 points behind. the next day she beat obama in the new hampshire primary. >> the kind of come back new hampshire has just given me. >> she tears up that moves 11 points in one day. >> she showed some authenticity. i think voters very much were attracted to that. >> authenticity is rare in politics and in presidential campaigns the consultants strive to control everything. >> this is all theater. >> democrat bob beckel has...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a fompbler urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016 and beyond. that is why i called the coalition of the ascendant. if you look at 2010, it was an electorate that was older and more conservative. that is why republicans did so well in 2010 and not so well in 2008. clinton said this is not rocket science, that what republicans want to do is they want to make the 2012 electorate look more like the 2010 electorate and the 2008 electorate. and clinton said he had never seen in his lifetime an effort to restrict the franchise that he has seen today. clinton grew up in arkansas. he knows what this kind of politics is ab
when bill clinton says something, people start to pay attention. he has weighed in on this and said something i want you to unpack. he has argued that the republicans what the electorate in 2012 to look like the 2010 electorate and not like the 2008 electorate. explain what he meant by thtat. >> if you look at the 2008 electorate, it was a the per se electric, a denver electorate. and it signaled a democrat change in the country and what the electorate will look like going forward in 2016...
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. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
. >> paul: hillary clinton suggested that the consulate attack in benghazi involved the al-qaeda affiliate in north africa it was like will goly the work of the terrorist group. that admission led to many questions what took the administration so long with john mccain and lindsay graham issuing this statement. we recognize that al-qaeda involvement in the terrorist
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gore narrowly won that and so did clinton. record 3-1-1. in 2000 and '04, dick cheney dispatched his opponents. and in '08 palin outdid expectations but biden clearly won as did obama pushing the record to 6-1-1. five times in a row and six out of eight that the winner of the vp debate has gone on to win the election. various people in the media have wanted to declare
gore narrowly won that and so did clinton. record 3-1-1. in 2000 and '04, dick cheney dispatched his opponents. and in '08 palin outdid expectations but biden clearly won as did obama pushing the record to 6-1-1. five times in a row and six out of eight that the winner of the vp debate has gone on to win the election. various people in the media have wanted to declare
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also, robert reish, former labor secretary in the clinton administration, economist and professor of public policy at the university of california at berkeley. secretary rice, let me start with you on the terror front and the obama administration. do you buy david axelrod saying that president obama labeled it terror the next day? >> well, it didn't sound from that context as if he labeled it as terrorism the next day, anderson. but it does seem credible to me that the white house is sharing with the public what it knows when it knows. it's very difficult to get good information immediately and as this issue becomes clearer, i think the white house has made a credible effort to tell the americans what it, in fact, knows about it. >> ari fleischer, what about that? david axelrod is also saying look, an investigation, you have to be prudent, you're president of the united states, you can't jump to conclusions. >> i have a fair amount of sympathy. i stood on that podium at the white house in the case of attacks on our country. you have to wait until you have all the facts to speak. but
also, robert reish, former labor secretary in the clinton administration, economist and professor of public policy at the university of california at berkeley. secretary rice, let me start with you on the terror front and the obama administration. do you buy david axelrod saying that president obama labeled it terror the next day? >> well, it didn't sound from that context as if he labeled it as terrorism the next day, anderson. but it does seem credible to me that the white house is...
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for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers, why have high unemployment numbers in the first place? the problem, e.j. -- and i want you to weigh in on this, too, joan, they are now reaching to find a rational for why romney is running. if unemployment is now going down, if you have 30 months of private job creation, if you have bin laden dead, why is romney running? that's the problem they are getting if these numbers are out and they are out and they are valid numbers. >> he's losing rationale, and, you know, he began to lie today on the campaign trail because i think he said, what's happening is that people ar
for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers,...
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that has been a well-known fact since the clinton administration. i really thought barack could have hit him a lot harder on a lot of things. when he said that there was $90 billion bid into green energy, that is what has been creating jobs all over this country. california has an incredible job increase in the solar energy field. i am with barack. he knows what he is doing. >> liz will be our final phone call. she is in north carolina, republican. >> i think that the moderator was very disappointing. he did not control the debate at all. obama had much more time than romney. i think a couple of times, romney did sort of interrupt, but he had to. obama had been on for five minutes. i timed it myself. the other thing is that people are saying that romney did not lay out his agenda very well. i think he did. he explained what he wanted to do, 1, 2, 3, several times. the lady from florida said that he didn't explain what he was going to
that has been a well-known fact since the clinton administration. i really thought barack could have hit him a lot harder on a lot of things. when he said that there was $90 billion bid into green energy, that is what has been creating jobs all over this country. california has an incredible job increase in the solar energy field. i am with barack. he knows what he is doing. >> liz will be our final phone call. she is in north carolina, republican. >> i think that the moderator was...
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bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how you define small business. >> the reality is, it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of workers in america, the small businesses taxed as individuals. >> you are surprised to know mr. trump reacted on twitter. he said as a big job creator, i was greatly honored to have been mentioned twice during the debate. donald trump. >>> let's turn to another political debate. jon stewart v. bill o riley. he called in stephven colbert. he was brought in by two shirtless handlers to get
bush and bill clinton. the second debate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how...
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against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that you're going to see by tuesday is going to be significant in a lot of states. >> and also the swing in attitude. you look at the wall street journal editorial page. the best republican performance since 1980. bill crystal was saying the same thing last night. i was saying the same thing. i said, this is the best i've seen a republican do since 1980. >> in a generation. i've been very critical. bill crystal has been critical. conservatives have been critical. why can't mitt romney connect the dots? last night he did. how important is that -- for
against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that...
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what mitt romney will do as president is the same thing that ronald reagan did and, frankly, bill clinton did. hold your principles. be tough. in the end you know you have to negotiate, and that's the only way this country can move forward. that is what president romney will do, and that's the president that people saw potential president that people saw next president they saw debating the other night. >> governor strickland, the last few seconds to you. is it going to be a closer race than it has been when we see the results come out? >> of course, ohio cannot be taken for granted, candy, by any candidate or either political party. it will be a very close race. i believe because of the president's saving of the american auto industry, which, in fact, is realed to manufacturing jobs in ohio, and ohio is coming back, and we're grateful for that, but the president deserves, many my judgment, the lion's share of the credit for ohio's economy, and its rebound. >> from ohio governor ted strickland. ohio attorney general and former senator mike dewine, thank you both for being here. >> up next
what mitt romney will do as president is the same thing that ronald reagan did and, frankly, bill clinton did. hold your principles. be tough. in the end you know you have to negotiate, and that's the only way this country can move forward. that is what president romney will do, and that's the president that people saw potential president that people saw next president they saw debating the other night. >> governor strickland, the last few seconds to you. is it going to be a closer race...
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bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit. >> he gets the first word of that segment. let me make this comment. let me repeat what i said. i am not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that is not my plan. let's look at history. my plan is not like anything that has been tried before. my plan is to bring down rates and credit so the revenue stays in but we bring down rates to get more people working. my priority is putting people back to work in america. they are suffering. look at the evidence of the last four years. it
bill clinton tried the approach i am talking about. we created 23 million new jobs, but from deficit to surplus, and businesses did well. in some ways we have some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans. i believe that the economy works best when middle-class families are getting tax breaks and those of us who have done well because of this magnificent country we live in that we can afford to do more to make sure we are not blowing up the deficit....